2Degrees Huawei IDEOS U8150 Review

ideos The way I read it, 2Degrees’ main target market is the younger pre-pay user. They’re not (yet) looking for corporate accounts or sophisticated high-end smartphone users. In this sense, the IDEOS U8150 is a great fit as their first smartphone: capable, not going to stun the geeks, but priced well for the market.

At $379 outright, you can’t expect the U8150 to compete with the iPhone 4 or top-end android phones, but it performs admirably. I think this is largely down to the unmodified Android 2.2 version that Huawei have loaded on the phone. Even with a 528MHz CPU, the U8150 performs almost snappily. In fact in places it out-performs a full-price Android smartphone running 2.1 with layers of OEM cruft.

It still has that classic Android UI lag, with the screen running a few milliseconds behind your thumb. But the thing is, I’m ok with that for the price. When I pay near-on $1000 for a phone, I want it to feel like an iPhone or Windows Phone under my thumb. But for $379? I’ll accept feature-phone performance and smartphone features.

Features? We got Features!

Another huge plus of vanilla Android 2.2 “with Google” is you’re guaranteed to get all the things you’d expect from Android. Apps, maps, email, contact sync, navigation, active wallpaper. It’s all right there out of the box. Which is frankly amazing for the price. This phone even does some stuff that the iPhone 4 can’t do: it has WiFi tethering and FM Radio.

I like Huawei’s approach with this device. Step away from the forking customisations that HTC, Sony, Samsung, and others seem so enamored by, and just run the device the way Google planned. And Huawei are no slouches either: apparently their network gear is behind the networks that serve more than a billion humans.

So what are you compromising by not spending $500 more? Two key things: screen size and upgrades. The screen is tiny, and the on-screen keyboard is just adequate at the size. If you txt and email a lot, play with one first to make sure you’re comfortable.

The lack of upgrades will be a concern for the geek-set: Huawei have categorically stated that this phone won’t be getting Android 3.0. I don’t know if that also means no other 2.x versions, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they’ve dropped the facility for upgrades altogether. Again: no real drama for the target market, because 2.2 doesn’t lack features (like 1.x) or performance (like 2.1).

One-upmanship

Vodafone tried to pull one over 2Degrees by dropping their 845 Android phone to $199. Thing is, the 845 is really at the level of a throwaway phone, or perhaps just barely valid as an emergency backup for smartphone users. A resistive touch screen and Android 2.1 on slow hardware is just a recipe for pain and anguish. Comparing the devices side-by-side, you can see a couple of other places the 845 falls short: no FM radio, no 802.11n (but it does have a headphone plug too).

Do yourself a favour and stretch to the IDEOS if you’re looking for a cheap Android phone.

Conclusion

I can’t believe how good the kids have it these days. When I was a young scallywag I had to pair a Nokia phone with an iPaq (that’s a Q there, not a D) over infrared.

Pros:

  • Did I mention the price?
  • Vanilla Android 2.2
  • Capacitive touch screen
  • Coloured backs for cool kids

Cons:

  • Screen size and resolution (ok for price though)
  • No upgrades to Android 3

255 Replies to “2Degrees Huawei IDEOS U8150 Review”

  1. Thanks for the review of this one, Ben. Been wondering whether I should hold out until I can afford a fully featured smartphone, but have been tempted by this and the 845 (which I have all but discounted as an option now, partly due to this review). I’m also really starting to waiver on my original goal of a Samsung Galaxy S by mid next year, and am thinking the iPhone would be a better choice after all (once again partly due to your feedback).

    I’m primarily considering an Android device because I want to get into mobile development, and as my wife already has an iPhone 4, that would give me two physical phones with differing mobile OSes to break. I also quite like the look of the new Windows Mobile, but being a Mac user I’m not convinced it will fit well into the rest of my computing infrastructure (esp. for synching of content and data). I do have Parallels and Fusion, which can be used at a pinch (esp. considering Parallels is running constantly on my work laptop, and already hosts other mission critical Windows only software). I’m also sure the Windows Mobile platform will improve significantly with age, just as the iPhone has, so am not sure I want to jump on that bandwagon at the v1 stage.

    1. If you’ve got a Mac, you can get into iPhone development for zero outlay. It’s only when you want to put stuff on the App Store that you have to start paying. But like you say, having an Android in the house would allow you to branch out to different platforms to see which you prefer (or learn both).

      There’s a Mac sync tool for WP7 available now. It only syncs photos/video/audio (as does Zune). Everything else is synced over the air.

      The Galaxy is one of the better Android phones on the market at the moment, but there’s a cluster of others that are equally competent (Nexus One, the new Desire HD, etc). The Galaxy’s screen is to die for.

      There’s no easy answer sorry, and it’s just going to get harder when Android 3.0 comes out and WP7 matures.

      1. Thanks for the input, Ben. I already have Xcode installed, and am working my way through some excellent iTunesU videos from the University of Stanford (http://ax.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewiTunesUCollection?id=384233225). At the moment the lack of spare time is my biggest barrier there, as it is at this stage a hobby endeavor. At a previous job, I was doing a lot of Compact Framework development on iPaqs, and fell in love with mobile development then. Its been something I’ve wanted to rekindle for a while now.

        Hopefully Android 3.0 will be out and commonplace on handsets by the time I’m ready to pony up for a new phone (largely dependent on Mr Taxman being kind to me next year, and the US dollar sorting itself out). Its partly because of this that I’ve been looking at viable cheaper alternatives, which may allow a phone upgrade a lot sooner.

      2. @Ben: you can develop for free, but you start paying when you want to put the app on a device.
        Untill you pay the $99USD you can only run you apps on the emulator.
        That’s what the deal was when I last checked anyway 🙂

    2. I have the Galxy S and I would recommend it to anyone who wants a top phone. However, I would wait for the Froyo (android 2.2) upgrade before purchasing if you’re not in a hurry.

      1. Hmm, I assume so. I don’t have any headset with me atm, but the custom rom i’m using has a FM radio player and asks me to plug in a headset. I can give it a go when I get home.

  2. Given that the source for the U8150’s Froyo kernel is already floating around, and given that there are already third-party ROMs for the U8230 (and the Pulse) I’d say there’s every chance of root and CM6.

    Yeah, but no Gingerbread. Rumours of 1GHz minimum spec were floating around earlier this year.

    Then again, you can get Froyo running on a G1 without too much fuss (minux the JIT stuff), and it ran on my HTC Magic just fine. So who knows, really.

    1. I have no source to confirm this, but Android would be stupid not to put a minimum spec on Gingerbread. They need to mandate capacitive screen, 1GHz, and GPU UI acceleration.

      1. Hi Ben,

        Great review, I disagree over setting minimum specs for Gingerbread though, setting a GHz limit isn’t a fair benchmark, for example the G2/HTC Desire Z with an 800MHz proc is equally as capable as the Nexus 1 and even Galaxy S… but by your standards wouldn’t meet requirements for Gingerbread.

        To be honest, with the way device manufacturers are acting with OS increments being an afterthought, it’s only going to be those game enough to reflash 3rd party firmware who’ll see the new OS’s on already released devices anyway…

        Mathew

  3. Ben,

    Just bought one of these puppies, never used an Android phone so a few teething issues but generally pretty straightforward.

    Only thing I think you should point out between this and the $1000 handsets is the need to purchase mini-SD cards if you want to use the phone’s features like camera, my evernote app, music etc. So the iphone at 16/32GB includes a fair amount of memory that you’ll otherwise need to purchase on the Huawai phone.

  4. May not get 3.0. but Gingerbread looks to be going to be labelled 2.3, so may get at least one upgrade

    Honeycomb will probably be 3.0.

    1. The camera related firmware on this phone appears to be restricted to fixed-focus.

      I have a Android App that uses the zxing barcode scanning library. On other handsets, the lib uses auto-focus while hunting for a readable barcode. On the IDEOS handset this does not happen.

      As a result I found the barcode scanning capability of the phone is impacted by this. Ironically, using the same app on the $180 Vodafone 845 (a rebranded HuaWei U8120 which also has a fixed-focus camera) exhibits much better barcode scanning performance.

      It is also worth noting that with both the Vodafone 845 and HuaWei IDEOS .. some Apps are not currently available via the Android Market (for example my NDial App). From reading stuff on the net, I understand that this is due to these phones being ‘new to market’ and that the manufacturer+google need to work together to get the ‘handset fingerprint’ for these models added to some ‘trusted handset list’ before all apps will appear in Market searches.

      Just my observations…. Dave

  5. Hi Ben , i have been looking at entry level androids for the past 2 weeks and am very confused with the many options and lack of clarity from manufacturers. I am now looking at getting this phone, but also have been looking at the LG optimus gt540 (I believe the 2.1 android update is available for it now?)

    What would you recommend?

    1. If screen (and therefore keyboard) size is an issue, then get the GT540. In all other respects the IDEOS is probably the better phone.

      With 2.2 you get improved performance, WiFi tethering, and all sorts of other goodies that you won’t get with the LG.

    2. 2degrees will apparently be releasing the <$500 LG Optimus P500 before xmas with Android 2.2
      Imho the best entry level Android imho is the Sony X10 mini [approx $375] but that stills runs 1.6 and the 2.1 upgrade is only just released in the UK.

  6. I purchased one of these fones 4 days ago and its locking already, it shuts down from time to time, all in all its giving me a lot of probs.

    Also there is no user giude with this fone only a quick start guide,

    1. I asked Mr Huawei directly at the press conference: will this phone be upgradeable to 3.0. He answered no, and said it was because of the likely hardware requirements for later versions of Android.

  7. I bought one, partly on the strength of this review. I’m happy with it (got it for $279 from DSE), plus I paid $56 for a 16GB Micro SD card.

    Biggest drawbacks is that the hardware doesn’t support multi-touch: so no pinch to zoom 🙁 It would be a much better browsing phone if it supported this.

    Camera is not good (video abysmal), but for the price I’m not concerned. Still the best entry level Android on the NZ market at present IMHO.

    1. To be honest, although I have pinch to zoom on the Magic with 2.2, I seldom use it.

      Double-tap auto zoom and +/- buttons in the browser work fine and can be use holding the phone one handed.

  8. I brought this phone yesterday. I’ve spent ages trying to figure it out – lack of documentation. My main problem is that it doesn’t seem to have a flash player. I’ve tried everything I can think of but no go… Has anyone found a way of setting up flash player on it?

    1. If the Flash plugin doesn’t show in the Android Market, it’s likely the IDEOS doesn’t have the processing grunt for Flash.

      My Magic is in the same boat, even though I have 2.2.

      Posted by unregistered user: Philippa
      I brought this phone yesterday. I’ve spent ages trying to figure it out – lack of documentation. My main problem is that it doesn’t seem to have a flash player. I’ve tried everything I can think of but no go… Has anyone found a way of setting up flash player on it?

  9. I believe Android 2.2 is Froyo, not Vanilla.

    The phone is pretty cool, I’ve won 8 so far from the 2degrees textmerace and have been using one for a couple of days. The battery life isn’t the greatest, but I was receiving thousands of texts yesterday 😀 but still average. I dislike the tiny keyboard, because im so used to my HTC tytnII’s keyboard, and my iPad keyboard, so it’s quite difficult, but I’m very keen to try out that keyboard called blind type, I followed it for a bit in it’s early stages, and i heard it was accepted onto the market, then google bought the company, and now i cannot find it. I would love to try it out, looks very cool.

  10. Yeah, dessert metaphors get mixed! I think by ‘vanilla’ Ben meant ‘unaltered’. 🙂

    (Forgive me if you were being ironic!)

    Try Smart Keyboard. Free version has no autocomplete or dictionary, but it will give you an idea of the options. Paid version is only a few bucks anyway.

  11. I use my PALM Treo for it’s (Win Mobile 6) calendar etc that I can sync with Outlook on my PC. Does this phone have this capability? (My Treo is just about to die).

    1. My understanding is it doesn’t, but I use outlook via googlesync, and then sync my phone from there, and seems to work phone.

      I’m waiting for my ideos to arrive, but am currently (and probably will for a while) use the x10, which is a good piece of kit, though significantly more expensive.

  12. Based on your review I went and bought this phone at the weekend =) and a bargain it was too as 2 degrees are offering buy top-up up to $150 and that amount comes off the price of the phone! So a bargain, effectively the phone only cost $150! I am having one little problem though, I have tried inserting my micro-SD out of my Nokia into the Ideos but it’s not picking up on it…is there a trick to how it is meant to be removed from the Nokia perhaps?…..
    Oh and the comments about small keyboard…yes I found that too, but then I turn it sideways and woohoo bigger keyboard for those fumbly finger moments!

    1. Not sure about the SD card thing sorry. I think there is an option in a Nokia to “remove the SD card”, but just turning the phone off would be fine.

      You could try formatting it?

    2. Hi Davina,

      Lucky you, silly me I brought it through the 2degrees website. After receiving it later in the afternoon (and unfortunately after opening it and then putting it back in the box to put under the Christmas tree) I saw that special on t.v for the $50 – $150 top up.

      The promos terms and conditions say it runs from 1- 31st dec. I received my 2Degrees Huawei IDEOS U815 on the 6th of Dec. I feel that an online shop is an extension of the physical 2degrees shop.

      I have phone 2 degrees twice now, and they say you should have to by it through there physical shop or retailers. No refunds too, because I have open it.

      Weird and because of this 2degrees you suck. You owe me 150 dollars top up credit. Its’ Christmas time and I now understand what your companies motivation is = money before people.

      Ross

      1. That’s okay to say buy it from a “physical shop” – that’s okay if you live in Auckland. What a load of c…!

        C’mon 2 degrees. You’re robbing this poor sucker. Of course “Online” is just another shop unless it’s run by a totally different organisation.
        Take ’em to consumer affairs Ross.

        Oh I forgot. Consumer affairs has no teeth. Just lip service!!!

      2. Thanks for the support Brian.

        Tough luck on my part. Teach me buying online and to buy 3 weeks before xmas.
        Lesson learnt. 2 degrees you still suck in your customer service.
        Lucky its still a nice phone, looking forward to using it. First Smartphone for me.

        Ross

    3. Hello there is an option in the ideos google phone to “unmount SD card” for safe removal.
      touch/select apps (lots of little boxes) swipe the screen till you see “Settings”, touch/select and you should see “SD card & phone storage” touch/select and you will see “Unmount SD card” or “Mount” below this is “Format SD card” which maybe necessary since you are moving your SD card to a different operating system.

  13. Anyone keen to buy a new one of these? My 12 year old just won one in the txt race but is gutted to find it won’t work on Telecom!!! $150 would help him buy a new telecom phone in time for Christmas. He is not a happy lad.

    1. Very pleased with the phone. A doozy to set up despite no manuals. (Huawei NZ tell me that’s becoz it’s “open Sourced”).
      Keyboard small but easier than my PALM with a physical keyboard. I miss the MS functionality eg calendar w synch to Outlook etc. (Not keen on cloud at this time – read GMail).
      Camera ok for a phone. (I use a camera for photography).
      Still got lots of exploring to do so must go….
      Thanks Julie & Josh

      1. Android 2.2 has exchange calendar and mail sync built in.

        Or were you referring to using Outlook as a home pop/imap client?

        Gmail works pretty well otherwise.

        I did a quick hunt for a Huawei support site that might have companion software for client sync like HTC does.

        Couldn’t find any official Huawei support for mobile phones at all.

        Does a URL come in the box?

  14. HI guys,
    Quick question:

    Does the android phones sold by shops like DSE have the branding effect ?

    LIke if I buy the LG Optimus P500 (2.2) , will it have the ugly Vodafone logo or 2Degrees Logo on the home screen along with crappy apps that cannot be uninstalled ?
    I know they did that with the Voda N95.

    OH and do we get the box/package that are from the manufacturer or has it been customized by Voda/2Degrees also ?

    1. I’ve got mine and it has no telco branding at all, just says “IDEOS” and “with Google” on the back plate, also the box was unchanged I’m pretty sure, nothing 2D in the box or on the outside, the safety seals were intact. So no, 2D hasn’t uglified it in any way lol. (:

      1. Oh ok, cool.
        But the Ideos has a close relationship with Google though, so the OS doesn’t have specific stuff like Sense UI etc.

        I just want my phone to be clean from Voda and the rest of them networks lol.

    2. From what ive heard, huawei put on an unmodified version of android onto the device, it has your usuals plus it came with the official Twitter and Facebook apps, that was it I think.

    1. If it uses Google maps Navigation, then yes.

      Otherwise it would need an app like CoPilot that uses static maps off the SD card like a tomtom or navman would

  15. Hi, just thinking about this phone. My main use for it would be as a sip phone using wifi hotspots overseas and on my home wireless network. Has anyone had experience of this function with the U8150?

    1. I see Sip functionality will be baked into the gingerbread (2.3)update, so the usual carrier OS upgrade questions apply… Haven’t seen/used it so time will tell.

  16. Looking at posts regarding quality, most software ask’s for 300mhz+ processors which this seems to have. Have used skype with varing quality using softphones but not Fring or SipDroid yet.

  17. Thinking I may upgrade to the LG Optimus P500 and give this Huawei to the wife. Anyone used the LG Optimus P500 ? is it easier texting with? the screen is .4 inches bigger. Found my fingers to be a bit fat with the Huawei.

  18. I bought one from Newmarket Two Degrees Store but because no user manual is available ANYWHERE I took it back after making a big fuss about the lack of user instruction.

    I now realize I dont need a smart phone except as a toy, and will stick with the dumb phone, that only lets you talk/text others…

    1. Yep. The answer given to me by Hawei is that it is “Open Sourced” so the makers of the hardware are not responsib;e for the manual – however i found that I didn’t need a manual. It is very intuitive to operate and it works like a beauty.
      If you don’t need a smart phone stick to the old style. For me it is, along with my laptop, my office as I travel a lot on business.

  19. Does this phone support the turn by turn navigation in google maps?
    Also, can you get a windscreen dock if it is to be used for GPS?

    1. Yes – We used the google maps navigation tool on the phone to find a house that we had never been to and it worked amazingly – it has real-time voice instructions while the map keeps updating, we went the wrong way and it redirected us back on path.

      Don’t know about the windscreen dock – I held the phone while my husband drove

  20. I bought an IDEOS before Christmas and am enjoying the features but am not too sure about how data is used on the phone.

    I bought 50MB on 11 dec and just got a text from 2degrees saying my national MBs are low with only 5MB left before returning to std rates…so I checked my account online and checked my usage. Apparently I have used 0.24MB so far today.

    The only problem is that I haven’t left my house and it has Wi-Fi, so thought that the IDEOS would use the Wi-Fi instead (and save me data costs) as that is the impression I get when I read page 10 of the ‘manual’.

    What would cause the phone to use the 2degrees mobile data instead of Wi-Fi? Have I got my settings wrong? The Wi-Fi settings on the phone tell me that it is connected to my home Wi-Fi and I have the Wi-Fi icon displayed at the top of the phone.

    I only wanted to use the 2degrees data when I was out and about. I’ll go broke if the phone keeps using up data and I get a message like this every couple of weeks. Has anyone else experienced this? How can I stop it from accessing data when I don’t want it to?

    1. Turn off your data on your phone when your not using it , go to settings,click on wireless & networks, go to mobile networks, click on on that,you will see data enabled if the box is ticked its on , no tick its off hope this helps

      1. thanks … now that I know where to disable it, I will be able to save heaps of data time. This forum is better than a manual *smile* Thanks, Ben. Great website – very informative, helpful and user friendly

  21. Am curious… does anyone have the TelecomNZ APN information I can set this phone up with? Have got the phone working on XT, and have got DATA config’d, but I can’t get MMS through… Anyone have any tips there?

  22. @Adman Yes, I brought a universal windscreen dock, 4gb card and car charger on trademe for about 30 dollars including delivery.
    Google Nav works fine.

    @Leanne, yes thats what I understand too. That if wifi is around it will use that first. Saying this, 0.24mb is not very much data traffic. Its not even 1 mb yet and you have 50mb in a month to use.

    To be on the safe side, I have also got into the habit of going to “Wifiless & network settings” > “mobile settings” Then un tick the top two data options when I am at home, so it’s wifi only or no internet.

    P.s. 2degrees you still suck. (read previous comment- $230 loss going on the recent dse special haha I am a fool for using the 2degrees website. So much for being tech savy, you get scewed.)

  23. Just brought one of these too, http://www.trademe.co.nz/Computers/Cables-adaptors/Audio/auction-343596573.htm a 3.5mm to 3.5mm aux cable. To hook the huawei up to my car stereo. Unless you have a bluetooth car stereo that is the best way as it’s a digital to digital connection. The above way there might be some loss in quality(analogue connection ). will let you know how it goes as I have just ordered mine right now.

    What apps have people been installing on their Huawei ?

  24. I bought this phone a few days ago and I’m finding it very user friendly. The only thing I can’t work out is how to turn off the irritating camera sound. Anyone know?

    1. Zoe, I don’t think you can turn it off. In a lot of countries the law requires a camera sound. Apparently ut helps to prevent dodgy people taking covert photos. :-O

      1. Haha I hadn’t though of that :p

        I wish I could at least turn it down. It’s louder than any of the other sounds and it makes people turn and look at me even from far away.

    1. I use OruxMaps on a Vodafone 845. The Vodafone 845 is also made by Huawei: it is the previous generation of the 8150.

      OruxMaps is a general-purpose mapping application but can use offline maps (as well as online maps) so it is useful when out at sea or in the mountains.

      It can record your actual track and can import and export .GPX file.

      I believe it can do waypoint navigation along a route but I have not tried it. Apparently it will sound an alarm if you stray off course, and when you are getting close to a waypoint. It does not do turn-by-turn navigation for driving.

      I don’t really like the UI much, but it does most of what I want to do.

      Battery lasts around 3–4 hours when recording a track.

      Offline maps have to be in a specific format, but a program is available to generate them.

      I have created a multi-level map for Bank Peninsula from the marine charts available from LINZ, as well as NZ Topo maps for the Canterbury area. I intend to make these available for download somewhere when I find a suitable place to share the 500 MB of data for these two maps.

      I would not really want to do serious navigation using such a tiny, non-waterproof device with a limited battery life. But it is fun to record where you have been.

  25. Thanks for the review and setting up this forum.

    I purchased my Ideos U8150 a couple of weeks ago and it continues to impress. Internet tethering to my Ubuntu 10.04 laptop using USB or WiFi works really well but runs away with the bandwidth on 2Degrees prepay. Any suggestions for how to profile web browsing to limit bandwidth while mobile connected would be much appreciated.

    So far I’ve found the Android User guide useful: http://www.google.com/googlephone/AndroidUsersGuide.pdf
    google sky map integrates with the accelerometer and compass to find your way around the stars
    combining the google home and work calendars works well for being organised on the move
    Sending texts using voice commands saves heaps of typing
    The andando app is very handy for gps plots
    And of course the android zoom website is brilliant to download new applications using the camera as a 3D barcode scanner to enter url’s with one click. http://www.androidzoom.com/
    Transferring music and pictures using the USB is quick and easy.

      1. Not sure about the voice activated keyboard, but i’d recommend an app called “Thick Buttons”. a keyboard which has the buttons get bigger as the likelihood of you using those buttons. Very useful, i’ve found.

    1. I had a look at the Androidzoom website and found page after page of rubbish. A couple of Apps that may have been of interest were absolutley rubbished in reviews. Sad really

  26. Thanks for the review Ben (and everyone that commented!)

    Managed to grab the Ideos off TradeMe for $150 brand new in box which I thought was a great deal. There are many new Ideos handsets going cheap right now (low reserves and buy nows).

    After reading the review and comments, I decided to grab one to have a play with and see how I like Android, before investing in a higher end handset. It’s due in a day or two so can’t wait to try it out.

    Also, there appears to be a second Ideos version which sports the HSDPA 850mhz band which would open up the option of using it with XT too. Though it seems very hard to source with limited release.

  27. Got bought one of these as well … have been playing with it and left it on charge for most of the evening as well.

    I notice the battery charges to full and and then stops charging but the default in built app under About Phone only shows 99%?

    If I download a battery application, it will show 100% … Have others experienced this?

    Cheers

    1. Download the “Advanced Task Killer” app. It’ll kill everything (skype, any residual browsers, etc) to help save battery. OR you can just select specific system processes to close

      Think of it as “The CTRL+ALT+DEL for your android”.

      And while you’re at it, get “Where’s my droid”

      1. Thanks for your reply Yvan. I already have Advanced Task Killer installed. But I find if I am on 3g and have skype connected, I do not how to close the program. Task killer doesn’t kill it as technically skype is still working.

        Thanks for the tip. Will have a look at the app.

    2. From th Apps panel scroll down and select “Settings”, “Applications”, “Running services”. Scroll untill you see SKYPE. As described on the panel – select “touch to Stop” and follow prompts ignoring the “warning”.
      It works for me….

  28. I bought my partner an Ideos for Christmas, loved it so much I’ve given away my HTC and bought one for myself. Then my son came to visit, and now he’s got one too. It’s a great phone for the price, and includes features that were disabled or unavailable on other Android phones I’ve owned.

    When I’m not in the office I run Skype on it; and Skype calls are cleaner and have less lag than they did on Fring or Nimbuzz. The wifi tethering is wonderful. Speech to text for emails and text messages works better than pecking at the on-screen keyboard and almost makes up for the loss of the physical keyboard on my HTC.

    It’s great to have a phone that’s smaller, and for most purposes the screen size isn’t a major drawback; but battery life is a downer. I don’t get through a day. Still, with a spare battery and an external battery charger (currently on order) I should be fine.

    @Ross: download Advanced Task Manager. It lets you kill running services as well as applications. It closes Skype down successfully.

    1. Love my IDEOS. The Huawei is absolutely briiliant value for money IMO.
      I walk around with App “Tune In Radio” on my favourite radio stations from allover running off WiFi. A cent or 2 per day.
      The browser, weather (& News) updates using Metservice, GPS, compass and locator Apps are brilliant.
      Batteries, are shortlived if you have wireless or your phone searching. I live in marginal area and if 3G is scanning for signal or if I turn off my modem (overnight) I turn off the respective functions and it really extends battery life. At night I plug into a charger and have no problem thru the day.
      Key board: I have big paws but I find that the lightest touch enables me to select even the finest and closest letters, or dropdown options.
      .

      1. @J I browsed on eBay and found the sellers there – plenty of options.

        There are lower capacity batteries for about USD10, but the real McCoy (1220maH, as I recall) is USD30, both plus postage. They arrive very quickly – just a few days.

        The battery chargers are universal, not specific to the Ideos, but they only come with US power plugs (24vAC is OK though). They range from less than USD3 to USD12 plus postage. The more expensive ones will also drive a USB charger so you can do the spare battery and the phone at the same time.

        I’ve also ordered a combo which included a car charger and three data cables. This was less than USD4 plus postage.

  29. I just bought the vodafone845, wanted something cheap while on holiday as 2deg reception was non existant. I paid $179 plus $30 odd for sim bundle which came with $200 free calling for 3 months, 50mb data per month, free fb and twitter access, plus $$free txts…so it was a damn good deal

    The phone itself impressed me I have n95 unlocked and hacked i never wanna give up. My partner has the HTC Desire rooted and tho its not in the same league as a $1000 smart phone. it does a fine job for what it is.

    I can’t imagine your average joe user needing anything more expensive – its a learning curve but most phs are when u upgrade, for txting installed Handcent, and using gingerbread keyboard which beats swype etc hands down. Astro file manager, powerAmp for wma music files, an I all set… not into gaming and if you were this ph is not for you.

    Have just rooted and installed custom rom which i getting used to, preferring the original at present time! Anyone know where I might source voda’s original rom??

  30. Just a quick note, hope everyone has downloaded “fishing 2 go” game for their android really great free game for when the wife goes shopping and you choose to sit in the car, to “check your emails”.

  31. Would be great to be able to plug a full size keyboard into the Huawei, when on the road and while its charging via the car’s cig lighter. (while the wife is shopping)

    Is it possible? Do any smartphones enable this? Iphone?

    1. I know you can pair a Bluetooth keyboard with the iPhone 3GS and above, and you might be able to plug a USB keyboard into an iPhone via a camera connection kit, I know it works with ipad. I must try pair my apple Bluetooth keyboard with my ideos, i usually just use it with ny iPad

      1. Ah, what would we do without eBay! If you have an iPhone, I recommend the hum, I thinks something like the TK-421 from think geek, it’s an iPhone case with a flip out keyboard, looks really cool, yacht seen one irl yet, but can’t confirm a BT keyboard would work with the ideos

      2. I just found this out from a Hong Kong Ebay Seller this and thought I would share. Maybe someone else can confirm.

        “Google have not add bluetooth keyboard
        driver to this system. Maybe they will add such
        function for Android system in future firmware.”

  32. okay, ive got one of these phones. heres my impressions after a week and a half:

    1. awesome.

    2. a little lag sometimes and ‘slow’ opening apps etc.

    3. keyboard is small, BUT i got ‘SlideIT’ app for free, and that cancels out typos well. There are a couple of similar programs out there I think.

    4. the battery isnt the best, (maybe im just using it too much at the moment) BUT there are several apps out there to help with that. I recommend ‘Free Power Widget’ as a way to quickly turn on/off features such as gps, screen brightness or bluetooth that use power.

    5. Its CHEAP!
    That means when its lagging or having a small screen (compared to my girls iphone), I dont get grumpy, because hey, its FAR BETTER than any phone out there for a similar price. Cost me under $300 including an 8gb micro-sd card.

    While the Iphone4 has much nicer hardware (especially the bigger screen!) I MUCH prefer the android operating system!!!

  33. Hi Ben,

    Need a bit of help here, I’m a young teen and am looking for a phone preferably with a music player, FM radio and camera. I thought the IDEOs sounds cool plus I’m already on the 2 degrees network. Does this phone has facebook? Also I was thinking of getting the Roxy Spiro from Sony Ericsson or do you think the IDEOs would be better? I’m not sure about texting on a touch phone but just wondering out of the two phones which is better value and all. Thanks very much

    1. Hi I bought one of these from trade me for $180 new. Like you I’m on 2 degrees pay as you go, so I was’nt expecting much. Opened it up in the car and popped my sim in. It asked me for my gmail account, logged on sorted out my contacts and then gave me voice navigation home. Gobsmacked or what, yes it is the greatest thing since sliced bread, yes its got face book, twitter and everything you ever thought of. The camera is not very good and the keyboard is cramped, but it does have very good voice to txt recognition if your close to a hotspot. I banged a 16gb card in it and have got a bottom kicking phone for under $250. Just to give you an idea if you turn on the phone and say “Navigate to skytower” it will give you voice prompted navigation there with no further imput. Mark my words if my name was steve jobs I’d be afraid, very afraid

    2. Defenitely, Ideos I have chosen and has not dissappoint me yet and go to market and download facebook but it should already on it though and facebook doesn’t use your data for 2 degrees and has got FM RADIO AS WELL AS 3.2 CAMERA AND FROM MARKET” APPS” you can download MP3 Downloader and download many songs you like for free

    1. No. It actually uses satellite receiver built in. No cost. Works really good. Comparable or better than my car SatNav.
      Love it.
      Use it on my boat for location and maps and directions and so on.

      1. I love the prize and features This is my first smart phone and it works brilliantly but for GPS I called 2 degrees and according to them it cost so, could comeback to me on this IF POSSIBLE

      2. The GPS triangulates from sattelites to obtain position (Longitude & latitude), speed, & altitude. It then may try to reference that data against Maps to obtain actual location as in xxxxx street. The latter is done via data link thru 3G network and it is this that is chargeable – not the satellite useage. The data use charged is actually quite small and therefore not expensive.

  34. Hi Ben – Quite a few test reports slam this device for having poor battery performance – some even talk about getting a higher capacity battery for this… A few helpful comments please

    Oh yes and recommendations please about what might be an appropriate sized SD card for an Average user (no games – little music)

    1. Battery life, as with all smartphones, depends on whether you’ve got wifi switched on or not. If so, its gonna burn your battery big time. Additionally, if you are using 3G, or have it switched on, that too will drain it.

      Although the IDEOS has a low battery spec – I think its 1100MhA, its offset against the smaller screen.

      Turn wifi off if not using, and turn 3G off, and it will last 2 days OK. Makes lots of calls or texts, you might get one day

      IDEOS is a sampler for the market to see if kiwis are into Android.

      Watch out for the next range from 2degrees, theyre not Huawei, theyre better, cheaper and sleeker and have a larger display, no not LG either.

      Android 3.0 is not for smartphones, only for tablets, its a screen resolution driver capability and size upgrade, thats all.

      Avoid the Vodafone 845, its a paperweight.

      1. i have turned everything off and my phone still only holds charge 4 a couple of hours tell me how it can hold charge 4 2days please

      2. Try to install these 2 programs from the ‘Market’: ‘Open Advanced Task Killer’ https://market.android.com/search?q=open+advanced+task+killer&c=apps&price=1&so=1
        and ‘Lookout’ https://market.android.com/search?q=lookout&c=apps&price=1&so=1
        . Both are available as free versions. Install them and follow the instructions. When you open the Advanced Task Killer you will see everything your phone is running at this very moment. Just kill all applications you DON’T wan’t to run and see what happens. If your phone is still not holding it’s power, your battery must be close to ‘Valhalla’. In that case check your warranty. You will have to replace your battery… ‘Lookout’ is a quite good protection to avoid malware and virus infections that could drain your power too. It has more really handy features! Another VERY good and free application is ‘Antivirus’. https://market.android.com/search?q=antivirus&so=1&c=apps
        Either of those two will protect your mini computer very well. Hope that helps! Cheers!… (:

  35. Got a question for you other Huawei users?

    Has anyone else had this problem with their Huawei IDEOS?

    Just recently, now when I receive a phone call now its all crackly. Can hardly understand people. Its the speaker, like a butterfly with a cracked wing!

    Do you think I have had a music too loud? I thought it would separate speaker. Only had the phone since December 2010 and only maybe 15 phone calls in all that time. As I just use this phone for the internet.

    Not sure how 2degrees will handle this issue. Have not much confidence in them at all.

    1. No probs with mine and I use it for music, internet radio etc.
      Suggest a fault or something sitting on the speaker cone. @ degrees should cover or replace under warranty.
      I’ve certainly not had any issues with 2 degrees, certainly way better than Vodafone or Telecom.
      Let us know how you go…

    2. I had excactly the same problem with my huawei. couldn’t understand anyone as it was so crackly. thought it may have been network but changed sim over to different phone and it was good. phone eventually stopped charging after two months of owning it due to moisture damage? it wasn’t like it went through the washing machine but not covered by warranty

  36. Feel kind of foolish. I have previously transferred files (photos, S/sheets, word docs, Music) to my phone from laptop but cannot now find how i did it nor how to see the files on my Huawei.. Sheesh. HELP!

  37. Re the SATNAV Function – Is it possible you could point me to where i can get the info on working this item properly..

    and – How please can I tell when i have a text message waiting for me, Idont notice a blinkin’ Icon anywhere

    You know its a shame that the manufacturers /distributors didnt provide a more concise guide to this great phone – not a piece of folded bog paper !!

    Thanks

  38. got the ideos phone and have just been having a play. got this phone on trademe for 172 dollars it came with a $32 credit and everything, all wrapped in the box, seller said theyd won it in a 2 degrees promotion comp. i notice u need a sd card to make the camera and music player work. also i personally need a little help with this phone as its so very different to my old simple samsung one. first of all how do u find out how much credit your using? also wen i went into settings>>and something else i now cant remember how i got in it was just some info about my phone and it said my network was vodafone nz wen in fact fone came with a 2 degrees simcard? can i put my old simcard in this fone? also does using facebook or any other apps cost? what is wifi? sorry for all the questions just need a lot of help as the user guide only covers the basics. thanks so much!

    1. When you are outside Ak, Wgtn. Chch, Qtown where 2 degrees has own circuits, you are working off Vodafone through arrangement with 2 degrees. Don’t worry about it. Love it as it gives you wider range. Keep your 2 degrees SIM in the phone. Enjoy.

  39. Hello Ben
    I have an Ideos u8150 as a novice to Cellphones is their an operating manual or is their an equivalent Android manual that would apply to this phone both Vivienne and myself have one we know what they can do we just don’t know how to go about it.

    Any help would be appreciated
    Thank you
    Peter Watts

  40. QUESTION: How to you paste text you have selected? It says it goes to clipboard after you select the text but not sure yet how to paste it like into the google browser.

  41. All of a sudden My phone has changed its key pad layout when turned to landscape view it now shows THREE symbols at a time e.g.qw1 er2 ty3 etc What have I done to deserve this ?/

    Oh and how do tou turn the alarm off without killing the phone by plaster embedding ??

    1. If you are on touch pal, try slowly swiping horizontally once or twice along the keyboard, it should change it back, dunno what you mean about alarm

    2. The first time I set my alarm I forgot that you have to swipe it ‘on’ (green phone to red lock) – ended up not plaster hit but turned the whole phone!

  42. Thanks everyone for useful feedback

    Just a bit more on the Time/Alarm problem … you are offered a split screen to “doze” or “cancel the alarm” for about 5 seconds from when the alarm sounds – thereafter if you the option disappears and the only way i can turn off the racket (By this time IM REALLY AWAKE!!) is to shut the phone down at the top button
    Please forgive me for being dense – but – there must be another way – not so ???

    1. Hi Ian, I had same experience this morning with the alarm -and yes I was very awake by the time I figured out you swipe down the message bar at the top of the phone, the same way you look at incoming email messages.In fact there will be a little alarm bell icon in the swipe bar at the top of your screen (-I was far too blurry eyed to see this first thing in morning) When you swipe down the message bar the snooze.dismiss screen will reappear and you can make your choice. Try it when you are awake and you’ll sus it no problems. enjoy.

  43. i have a problem to, i have a huawei ideos and i don’t know hoe to send music to my friends phones, do you know how to do it?

  44. Can anybody show me how to download Adobe flash player for U8150? I just realised it doesn’t open up flash files. Thank you.

    1. download Documents to Go from the Android “Market” (on your phone).
      This will enable you to view Excell, Word, and PDFs. For a couple of $$$’s you can get the full edition so that it will allow editing and other functions.
      It worlks well for me. I can even secure my Excel files.
      Hope this helps
      Brian

      1. thx, Brian. Yeah, I got the Documents to Go as well. So, do you know how to view flash files and video files on the U8150? It’s bit disappointing not being able to view videos on some websites.
        Thank you.

  45. i got this phone off trade me popped in the sim that came with it and got cracking. started using facebook and hotmail and going on the android market and ended up spending $15 bucks because i thort you just had to turn wifi on and it would be free. anyway i stopped using the internet but when i just truned my fone on and then off again $2 went missing! soon all my money went and i didnt do anything not even text to provoke this! so i stopped using that simcard and everything went fine again. so what do you think caused my credit to disapear?

    1. User error.

      If you didn’t want to use your 3g, go into Network and Wireless settings, Then Network Settings, and untick “Data Enabled”.

      Silly tart.

    2. 2degrees sim card would let you use internet even without you joining the National Data Plan, and they charge you at 50c/MB. So, money can be easily gone if you surf here and there. Perhaps you can also turn off the auto sync function to stop the phone from sync with Facebook and gmail in the background.

  46. Hoping someone can help me with this problem, and at the chance of sounding an idiot I really do have to ask .. where is the Trash Bin on this phone ? I have looked everywhere possible and there is nothing at all I can see that could be the Trash Bin, and its leaving me unable to remove anything from the home screens. Any help very much appreciated !

    1. Luckily I have children to show me how to do this – press down on the icon and after a few seconds the trash bin will show at the bottom of the screen – drag it to the trash bin

      1. Thank you so much Leanne, I had a feeling it would be something basic like that .. Now I have nice clear home screens to use, very much appreciated ! 🙂

  47. Many of these phones have a problem with their battery going flat very fast. Even with everything turned off I can not get more than 7 hours of standby. 2 Degrees admit this phone will not give any where near the standby time they advertise and rather than replacing the phone they will refund your money. Phone going flat at 3pm is a pain in the butt.

    1. I think you’ll find it’s not these phones that are the problem, it’s Android.

      Apps running in the background can drain your battery pretty quick.

      1. yep i got rid of any non-essential apps that like to run in the background, and i turn off my wi-fi, and in settings disable data and data roaming – i just switch it on when i want to use the internet – which is only every so often and easy to do.
        I find my battery life is waaay longer, only charging it every 2nd night mostly and it hasn’t gone flat on me yet. there is an app you can get to charge your phone with solar energy – no idea if it works or is a sham…could be worth downloading and trying if you’re having issues 🙂

    2. where did you find out about getting a refund? my battery seems to be getting flat faster and more often although i haven’t changed the way i use it for a while. i originally bought this to replace my old faithful mobile that was starting to go flat fast…but that was after about five years use, not five months!

      1. YEP i’m having this problem too – the usual precautions like switching off WI Fi are not helping – I find that using the Airplane mode is the only cure as i’m having to recharge twice a day! – might as well heave the phone “out of the window” – its a DEAD (literally) loss !!

  48. Anyone tried the IDEOS X5 ?

    I think when it gets up to that price point, I might as well upgrade to the IPhone 4 and get the real deal.

  49. Hey guys,

    Feel free to laugh at a silly question, but are the U8150 and the U8150-D different models? Cause I’ve found an auction for each, one being cheaper than the other, so would like to know if they’re the same or not.

    Cheers.

  50. I bought the IDEOS U8150 for my daughter on sale via 2Degrees, it is a prepay, but now that my daughter is in oz, even with oz vodafone sim card, cannot get coverage, can it be unlocked and used on the telstra network over there?

    1. She should be able to use Vodafone. I’d recommend a Crazy John’s SIM prepaid tho. A lot cheaper and still uses Voda network – as with 2 Deg in NZ.
      Telstra (NextG)have a different frequency for their network and only their phones work on it – a shonky act so that if you buy their phone you’re locked in. Unfortunately they are the only one with coverage once you get out in the remote areas.

  51. Hi there, could you please tell me if this phone would be suitable for me as im on a contract with vodaphone, or do i have to get a new sim card and is it a different service provider. Thanks

    1. Hi Lisa, I’m actually with Vodaphone and using this phone with no problems at all, its only good for Vodaphone and 2 Degrees though. Its a good little phone for the price and if your an average user, if your a heavy one you may find a problem with the batteries not lasting all that long as you can read in comments above. Hope this helps 🙂

  52. I think there is a tracker on my ideos u8150 fone as I’m losing money for no reason and i dont even know why i’m not doing anything wrong, i dont use the internet at all iv only texted a bit but im still on free texts so should have around $10 on my fone instead of $3. is there anyway u can get the tracker off, it doesnt help that you cant see whats using up your credit on Your 2degrees. so any help as to whats using my credit???? also does using the FM radio cost at all. would really apreciate some advice. thanks!

    1. If you’ve registered with 2degrees you can log in on the website and see all your usage. We’ve had similar usage issues as well, not just with the Ideos, may be a 2degrees issue not the phone itself

    2. I had the same problem and it was because i had the internet on roaming etc, you will need to go to settings, wireless and network settings, mobile networks and make sure that none have ticks beside them, hope this helps

  53. Thanks everyone, it has been most beneficial reading through all your postings. I thought I was going crazy with the battery needing to be recharged every couple of days (phone only 2 weeks old). I’ll make sure to turn off all unnecessary extras to try and get a longer life span from the phone. Wishing you good things and great happiness :o)

  54. Hi there,

    Everytime I received a MMS/picture message I cannot seem to download it. It comes up with a ‘download’ button in the message, and regardless of whether 3G/wifi is on or off it comes up with “downloading’ for about 30seconds or so and then nothing happens, simply goes back to the download button. The files aren’t in my gallery.

    Any suggestions? Is this a android issue or 2 degrees issue?

    Thanks!

  55. I love the 1850 but can anyone tell me how to get rid of “TouchPal”? It just refuses to be turned off or uninstalled. I’d like a predictive text like in my old MS phone that doesn’t keep on throwing up totally idiotic suggestions. A veritable pain in the A. Ideas appreciated..

    1. You need to go to an empty text input field somewhere, then hold your finger down on it till it comes up with the “input options” dialog box, select it then choose the keyboard you want. After that, the keyboard selected should pop up automatically.

  56. I have a problem with the in call volume. When I call someone they can hear me perfectly but it sounds like to me they are a million miles away and I can barely hear them, let alone understand what they are talking about. When I o on to speaker phone it is absolutely fine though. Any suggestions? I did spill wine on my phone the other night LOL but I would have thought that if this had caused a problem that putting a call on speakerphone wouldn’t have worked either. Help!

    1. hi there. my girlfriend knocked a glass of wine on my phone(8150) the first day i got it and i could never again hear what the person i was talking to was saying

  57. My Ideos U8150 screen has broken. Any clues as to where I can get a new one locally, and instructions on how to fit it? 2Degrees want to charge me $200.

  58. Margaret, happy to sell you my handset if you like… $100. Bit of wear on the front by the buttons, otherwise working fine. I fly out to melbourne on Monday Arvo but can ship to you Monday morn if you like… Flick me an email if interested… Yvan@drake.net.nz

  59. Hi there..
    The ideos phone is great but just afew questions how do i change the keyboard back to android from touch pal? and how do i forward a message to others?

    1. to forward a message just hold on the message until a popup screen appears. it then gives you the option to forward. to change your keyboard You need to go to an empty text input field somewhere, then hold your finger down on it till it comes up with the “input options” dialog box, select it then choose the keyboard you want. After that, the keyboard selected should pop up automatically. hope that this helps.

  60. if your phone has suffered moisture damage is it worth getting fixed? or just buy a new one. as im on a new contract with 2degrees i want a new smart phone around the $300 mark and i don’t really want a huawei after having low battery life and the speaker was shit in the 8150. any ideas on what phone to buy and where from?

  61. Hi. I am liking this phone v much – have had it a week but I have a problem with the calendar.
    I have set up a google account, gmail & google calendar. But on the phone it says I have no calendars. The auto-sync is on for gmail & contacts. Why can’t it see my google calendar & sync with it. Any help much appreciated 🙂

  62. Can anyone help me ? One of my friend also bought ideos 8150 and his kids put PATTERN TO SECURE AND NOW NO ONE KNOWS HOW TO UNLOCK, ANY IDEA ANYONE , I tried call centre and they said He has to keep on trying until you get forgot your password but after putting 200 patterns it hasn’t come yet IT WOULD BE GREAT HELP OR MAY BE THE PLACE THAT I CAN GET IT UNLOCKED

  63. Hey team, thanks for the helpful info. Just a couple more questions: How do you delete/uninstall apps that are preloaded/come with the phone?? Eg i would like to get rid of the youtube, facebook, news and weather and twitter apps that already come with the phone?
    I would like to uninstall them for good any ideas?
    Thanks Jacob

  64. Hi, I bought this phone for my wife on mother’s day from Dick Smith, it was on sale for $199, very nice phone, good price, a little hard to text as the screen is a bit small and battery will runs out less than a day , put a 8 GB SD on it ($14 ), loaded her fav songs and photos, wife is happy as , hopefully let me buy a proper smart phone for myself.

  65. I have Huawei U8150 ^^

    Specs as follows:

    *Overclocked to 729 MHz, underclocked to 30 MHz

    *Gingerbread 2.3.3 via CyanogenMOD a.k.a CM7

    *Mutlitouch enabled

    …and that’s just scratching the surface

    For the deal I got… $299,of which $150 was credit on ph (which I still havent used yet – ph bought in Jan) so… a $149 smart ph that I can put in my front jeans pocket & still manage to sit down with!!

    If I win lotto Galaxy S II here I come ^^ but til then U8150 FTW ;-P

    1. I’d be keen to do the same to my ideos .. did yours come like that or did you upgrade it yourself? any info on how to do this would be much appreciated

  66. Hey Ben… I feel really stupid asking BUT I’ve just purchased a U8150 and while it’s a FANTASTIC ph I need an SD card to make the music and camera work… my question is???? Will any SD card work? i.e. from the warehouse or dick smith etc. Or do I have to buy a specialised one??? Note – this is my 1st smart phone and I’ve never had a SD card in any other ph’s.. Cheers

    1. Hi Treeza, its a micro sd card that you need, it’s just a tiny one that fits in your phone, i purchased one from trade me brand new, but you can get them anywhere now, make sure it’s a ‘micro’ sd card

  67. Hey, I purchased one of these a month ago, although I love the phone… A proper user manual would have been of some help. Does anyone know how to save photos that have been sent via MMS from someone else to you????? I wan’t to save it to my gallery so I can delete the thread it sits in.

  68. Hi, got this phone but a few problems, 1stly hard to txt, screen is not that big, 2nd, i haven’t managed how to attach a video to an email, it only allows to attach photos, when i capture a video or photo, doesn’t have an option to upload it or send it , txting to multiple recipient is not possible or at least i don’t know, However for the price is not that bad , please le me know if anybody knows

  69. Does any one who uses this phone know if it can bluetooth pics, music and videos?
    I heard a few concerns from a family member saying they cant. Could be that they dont know how to. but then Does the phone Bluetooth Images, music and videos?

    1. I had the same problem when i first brought it, but i downloaded a Bluetooth app from the Market,I now send my pics, files etc through it…hope this helps…

  70. I realise this is an old article, and you probably don’t pay too much attention to the comments, but it’s worth a shot.

    I recently purchased this phone (Well, it’s been about 6 months, now) and it wasn’t until now that someone attempted to send me an MMS message. This is pretty much exclusively due to the fact that GTalk exists, but I digress.

    What I came to ask – did you ever manage to get it to download? I’ve had a stab at it (entering a few settings manually in places they probably don’t go, for example) but, as far as I can see, the phone doesn’t even attempt to switch to the MMS APN when attempting to download, and will use whatever internet connection is available. Needless to say, on wifi, this doesn’t help much.

    So, if you got it work, I don’t suppose you remember how, do you?

  71. I absolutely love this phone, and I’m not given to a hasty rave. I got this phone for ‘free’ when switching from prepay to pay monthly on 2Degrees. A fantastic deal for $29 / month – what I was already paying. I used to own a JASJAM and had tested a bunch of replacements over the years never finding a decent performer. This handset is outstanding in general. The things I would improve are incredibly minor.. You get so much functionality with this handset. With a cheap 8GB micro SD purchase the phone holds heaps of music, I imported all my numbers and albums easily; and with File Expert it is so easy to wirelessly transfer files! Camera, maps, locations, 5 screens, news weather – the list goes on. Great phone. Get it, its a fantastic deal.

    1. Do you realize that by transferring to Monthly account you cannot now carry your balance fwd?
      Methinks 2 degrees are pulling a big con with the monthly accounts

  72. Hi… I have had this phone since last Dec and have had no problems up until recently. I am wondering if anyone out there would know why my touch screen isn’t working anymore?? What happened? I was out a the bus stop in the dreadful Auckland weather, and a text came through and when I went to answer it, the screen froze!!! It still turns on, I can still turn it off, the volume and power buttons still work….I just cant use the screen so PLEASE PLEASE.. can someone tell me if there is a way for me to fix it or should I take it to get serviced!!!

  73. I have this phone for a couple of months now and its a great phone….until I had this problem.
    Calls get cut off automatically, sometimes before u can hardly say a word. It just cut off and display “Call Ended”. This is getting very irritating and is happening almost everyday!!
    Is this something faulty with my phone and just me or what?? If all else fails, I will certainly bring it back to its service centre since it is still new andunder warranty….

    1. Are you out of the main cities/CBD? If so – My guess it’s Vodafone that’s the prob. 2 degrees havee limited number of towers (cells) and then use Vodafone facilities. If you’ve ever been a Vodafone subscriber you’ll know about drop-outs, slow or inconsistent test msgs that can arrive days after they’re sent.
      Until 2 degrees provide full service you can expect sub standard service

  74. Hi, just would like to know what Alistair means by the following ie does he mean that instead of using the keyboard to text, do you just speak and it types it in automatically ? Sorry, very new to Android phones.

    “The camera is not very good and the keyboard is cramped, but it does have very good voice to txt recognition if your close to a hotspot.

    Posted by Alistair Lumb | 9th February, 2011, 1:20 pm”

    Thanks.

    1. I’ve only used voice recognition for googling but I’m amazed at how accurate it is. Just hit the microphone icon and talk naturally and it will then do a quick search and most times it’s right on. Handy in the car if you’re looking for somewhere as from there you can get directions or tap on the phone number to ring the number suggested.
      To be really honest I find the keyboard small but works well despite my thick fingers – better than my PALM Treo. Just lightly touch is the answer. I really hate the predictive text though. Completely nonsensical predictions nowhere near realted to what I’m typing. I finally turned it off and do without but if someone’s got a better answer…

  75. I bought this one from aircel in India. Works fine. Only one caveat – screen resolution is not as good (because I was using nokia n97 previously).
    But everything else is great. It is light and cheap. I like the fact that music player pauses the headphone is removed!
    Inspite of its processor it is fast. Battery is also good 2-3 days (I do not use so much of wifi/GPS)

  76. Hi I’m new to this phone and so far so good! Just wondering if it comes pre-loaded with any games and where to find them? I’m sure I saw some the first day I was playing with it but now I can’t find them anywhere!
    Thanks for your help.

  77. Overclocked: 729 MHz
    Underclocked: 30 MHz
    Multitouch: Enabled
    Keyboard: SlideIT [similar to swype]
    Custom ROM: DroniX 0.4 [Froyo] -=and/or=- Gingerman v6 [Gingerbread]

    For the price ^^ best smart ph going…

  78. I bought 2 SmartPhones this month (August).

    LG Optimus ME from DSE @ $215, came with a 2GB SD Card.

    Huawei Ideos U8150 from Warehouse Stationary @ $199 (after tradein of old phone). This one did not come with a SD Card at all.

    I really like the Ideos

    But I am having major problems with the Wi-Fi on the Ideos.

    While the LG is detecting 3 Wi-Fi hotspots nearby in my home.
    Meanwhile the LG is connecting to my wireless router at 54mbps even from
    a couple of meters away.

    The Ideos is only detecting only 1 network (the one in my house) and
    with a very bad signal strength ranging from 1mbps to 18mbps. The phone
    is not even 1 meter away from my wireless router.

    The moral of the story is stay away from the Ideos U8150 if you are going to be using a lot of Wi-Fi

    1. Must be something wrong with your phone or you have ‘too much’ WiFi going on, blocking each others signal. Works totally perfect for me! Can use it all over the garden to approx 25m distance of my ‘HotSpot’. Recognises and connects to other WiFi spots like in town etc. easy and quickly.
      Check the link to the ‘Ideos Trouble Guide’ I left in an earlier reply…

      Cheers!
      Lutz… (:

      1. I’ve tried 3 different hotspots, same problem, bad Wi-Fi connectivity.

        Yeah, thanks I am aware of the FAQ. Had a look at the before I took it back to Warehouse Stationery.

        Warehouse Stationery sent the phone back to the supplier for investigation and confirmed that the phone does indeed have a problem and will need to be repaired. Faulty unit maybe.

        A word of advise to anyone out there. If you are going to buy a phone don’t buy from Warehouse Stationery due to the lack of technical knowledge from the staff and their refund policy.

        Maybe go thru Dick Smith or Harvey Norman at least where they may have some technical knowledge.

  79. Thank-you for your review Ben. 2degrees has just offered this phone (IDEOS 81501) for free on a 24 month plan for $29/month, so your comments have helped me make a decision about this offer. Cheers.

  80. My Huawei has just started to say that it has no more room for text messages even when I delete all my of text messages. Anyone had this happen to there phone ?

    1. If you’ve installed apps from the Android market place then you should move them the SD Card to free up memory.

      Also checkout App2SD

  81. Hi there, my phone isn’t starting up. I haven’t dropped it, i’m pretty sure i have no virusses on it(my friend has the exact same phone as me and we downloaded the same apps and her phone still works, i’ve got a warrenty but they said they cant replace it. Is it a problem with the OS or something and does anyone know how to fix my problem

  82. hi, can someone help me please?
    i cant connect to my wifi at home. it can see the SSID and i have entered the password which is remembered on the phone, but nothing at all happens when i press connect. i havent tried any free hotspots as i only got the phone today.

    1. so the wifi works in town fine, but when im at home, it now says “scanning” when i connect, then it says “disconnected” after a short while. any ideas? the guy at 2degrees said it should connect with no probs

  83. I brought 1 of these phones at xmas plus a 16gb sd card.
    I have followed instructions on 2.2 andorid user guide and still when I try to place musis says does not support this file format, yet my sd card works on everyone elses phone
    any suggestions

    1. It’ll be that your music is in the wrong format and the phone doesn’t understand it. i found that if I downloaded music off a cd it wouldn’t work on my phone.

  84. battery life is the worst i’ve ever seen in a smartphone battery lasts a day or so but thats only when im not using it when im using it as a portable hotspot for my ipod touch it lasts about 3 hours plus its really slow screws up all the time some times i can’t even get the main menu up also it can take several restarts before i can even get a common app like Facebook to work proply but then im used to higher end smartphones i like da fact that its a low end smartphone with all the features of a high end but none of this matters if i can barely use it its such a peice of s@#t the only thing i ve found it useful for is for a personal hotspot but i have to keep it pluged in the whole time which really pisses me off

  85. got this free from 2degrees on a $29plan. connects to the free hotspots no problems fantastic little phone – was unaware when purchasing would need an SD card to work some things tho…what type of SD card do i need to get (going to order online as cheaper) can’t find specs anywhere with the stuff I have with my phone…i only know bcos when i go to use camera/radio it says ‘please insert SD card’.

  86. Pros:
    1. It has ‘Android’ on it, so literally any ap can work on this phone..

    Cons:
    1. The keyboard, even horizontally is smaller by 3 x than any other touchscreen keyboard I’ve ever tried to use before making it impossible for me to text with.
    2. The battery life is substandard.
    3. The sound for playing any music is also substandard.
    4. According to the phone wi-fi hotspots don’t seem to even exist – you really need a dedicated line for it which means never leaving home if you want to text anybody.

    Actually, the whole phone itself is substandard and a joke. The *only* thing it has going for it is the fact it has Android, and since there are plenty of those around, even at the price it’s at, it’s a ripoff. I wouldn’t even pay $50 to own this phone, although it cost me a heck of a lot more. H3ll, I’d pass it up at 10 bucks as it’s worthless not being able to text on it unless you have hands the size of a toddler. It’s rubbish. Give me a pair of tin cans and a piece of string instead of this phone anyday.
    I’ve since bought a Samsung Galaxy 7.7 Tablet and couldn’t be happier (although I have to admit my Nokia 6234’s have better sound quality than any other phone (including tablets) I’ve encountered, including the iPhone).

  87. Hi. I have had my ideos 1850 for nearly 2 years. But now one side of the touch screen is not working. When I press the screen the left side doesnt work, but the right side does. Any feeback please will be appreciated. I cant use my password as the left side is where the letters and numbers are to retrieve my password. HELP!!!

  88. Hi Ben,
    Just got item for $99 from the Warehouse. Since buying it I have sourced “Gingerbread”, multizoom, overclocking and more,plus a 3300 mah heavy duty battery for longer usage, all with google and at age 71. What happened to youthful resourcefullness? I’m surprised to read of all the problems on this forum. The FAQ download is excellent, as is the PDF manual download.
    I enjoyed your review and interesting reading.

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